I do not have a use for these anymore and they are taking up space in my garage. Fully functional, nothing wrong with them. The black widow one is used. The condor on has only been used once or twice and is basically brand new. You will require your own basic hardware to bolt down to your trailer. They are approx $300 each new. I want to get rid them with ease so i am listing them for cheap. $200 for both. Must take both together.